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#273378 - 10/14/04 11:43 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Hey Stew,

Pull your pants down if your going to talk out of your A$$!

Laura Ingraham's brother is gay and she not only loves him dearly, she has him and his partner on her show from time to time.
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The point that seems to allude most of the 'enlightened' left is their own hypocricy on this issue.

Kerry clearly crossed a line.

The children of candidates have historically been hands off to opponents or their campaign efforts.

It was clear Kerry had planned to bring up the fact of Mary Cheney's sexuality before the debate, the way he managed to do it seemed contrived (Little Johnny did the same little trick during th VP debate-but with the smoothness of a Gemini tongue it largely went unnoticed).

Turn the tables and imagine what the reaction of the left (enlightened liberals) would have been if Bush had tried to make some political gain by using the same tawdy political trick on Kerry or Edwards if they had a child that was a gay or lesbian (without ever meeting that child or having talked to them about anything--much less their personal feelings).

They would scream that Bush was an insensitive homophobe that deserved to be burned at the stake.

The way Kerry's campaign camp talked about the issue afterwards makes it quite clear that this was discussed/planned in advance.

Out of all the openly out and public gay/lesbians Kerry could have referenced (that he could actually says he knows and have talked to about their thoughts on personal issues) that didn't happen to be the offspring of his opponent--He chose Mary Cheney (who he has never talked to but feels free to quote how she feels). Like Alanis says, "Isn't it Ironic?"

What a scumbag!

Mrs. Edwards comments are particularly digusting:

ELIZABETH EDWARDS ON ABC RADIO: "She's overreacted to this and treated it as if it's shameful to have this discussion. I think that's a very sad state of affairs… I think that it indicates a certain degree of shame with respect to her daughter's sexual preferences… It makes me really sad that that's Lynne's response."
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#273380 - 10/14/04 11:53 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Bottom line: Kerry is not a good man.
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#273381 - 10/14/04 11:56 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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You mental midgets are pitiful
Stew : You are not a good man either
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#273382 - 10/14/04 11:59 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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My, my, my, but aren't the radically right getting emotional?

A 30 year old woman still considered "children?" If it's so heinous a crime against Mary, why hasn't she spoken out? The Log Cabin Republicans don't seem to find a problem with it. Nor do the right-winged pundits that appeared on Fox News today.

Admit it, Krusty, it's pure desperation by the cons.

BTW, it's no surprise that "cons" is short not only for conservatives, but for convicts and con-artists as well. ;\)
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#273383 - 10/15/04 12:09 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Although I hate the thought of another 4 yrs. of Bush/Cheney I must point out again that Dick Cheney can bring up his daughter because he is her father!! I believe JFK crossed a line last night and I hope it doesn't hurt him. I'm hoping that Bush's abysmal performance in the Debates has shown him for what he truly is - a dangerous man who should only get into the White House on Visitors Day.
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#273384 - 10/15/04 12:09 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Originally posted by Kanektok Kid:
When Cheney goes on the stump, and uses his own daughter to make a point, hey, she's 'in play'.

KK
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KK,

As they say, "Whatever gets you through the night." If that makes you feel better about the SMALL little man you support regardless of what pablum he spews---Help yourself to happiness!

Kerry could have used a hundred other gays or lebians--he made a CALCULATED decission to use Mary Cheney.

We all know that alot could be made of Tereeeeeza given all of her rants. Have you heard George Bush ever say anything about her other than a complement?

Has Bush or Cheney ever said anything about the oppositions children?

The candidates are fair game, their children are not!

You won't hear Bush or Cheney say anything about Kerry or Edwards wives or children, because unlike sKerry and little Johnnie--they have class.
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#273385 - 10/15/04 12:15 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Eddie,

You're a good ambassador for your side of the isle.

When you're honest with yourself and others and call something for what it is--BS (whether it benefits your candidate or not) You have alot more credibility when you go off on the opposition when they cross a line.
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#273387 - 10/15/04 12:18 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Ed...How much would you charge me for diplomacy lessons?
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#273388 - 10/15/04 02:02 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Hey........I'm going fishing tomorrow. You guys keep crying like you are and the rivers are gonna puke out. :p
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#273389 - 10/15/04 09:26 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Gramps, for you - no charge. I love a challenge. \:D
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#273390 - 10/15/04 11:32 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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And now we see the signature hypocrisy of the ultra-right. While accusing Kerry of using reference to their adult daughter's sexuality for his political gain, the Cheney's keep the story in the media and the GOP adds it to their daily talking points ....

... for political gain.

It's a beautiful thing. ;\)
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#273391 - 10/15/04 02:26 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Kerry didn't put cheney's daughter into play, cheney put her own daughter on the line. It was alright for D!ck(head) Cheney to try and gain favor with the gay community, but when Kerry used her as a reference(just like her daddy did) then everyone(republicos) have a fit.
I guess you(republicos)still think that what is good for the goose, is not good for the gander.
Talk about whining and sniveling, she probabley turned gay after recognizing what turd her father is!....................
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#273392 - 10/15/04 05:13 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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If Rush Limbaugh was gay in the woods and nobody was around to hear him would he still be wrong ????
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#273393 - 10/15/04 07:32 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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In a word - YES!!
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#273394 - 10/15/04 08:21 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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she probabley turned gay after recognizing what turd her father is!....................
Great insightful comment!
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#273395 - 10/15/04 08:50 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Great insightful comment!

As sightful as some of yours!. What do you think that your the only one that can have an opinion?
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#273396 - 10/15/04 09:02 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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#273397 - 10/16/04 02:39 AM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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#273398 - 10/16/04 10:33 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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Thats funny,usually people are snoozing after one of your diatribes, now you know how the rest of us feel.................Fishy.
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#273399 - 10/17/04 12:26 PM Re: "This is NOT a good man."
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